Well, I have to say Bamboo, as a complete amateur my roses are looking exceptionally well this year. A lot of my roses are not susceptible to disease. I know they can be a pain in the butt (I let the wife look after the thorny ones) lol. Having said that I am now retired so I have all the time in the world to look after them, I quite enjoy the challenge.

Thanks for that info Urbanite/Bamboo. I wouldn't want to harm the birds, but at the same time want my roses to look good. I'll try and keep it down to a minimum. Treetop, I'll confess there is a rose I particularly like, and which I bought twice in different houses for myself - its Korresia, a small, yellow flowered fragrant rose, very disease resistant, never had a moment's trouble with it apart from aphids. But for customers, they like low maintenance, and so do I - and you can say a lot of things about having lots of roses, but low maintenance wouldn't be on the list! Rose Clear Ultra contains acetimiprid and triticonazole. The first is a synthetic neo nicotinoid, the second a fungicide - the second ingredient is more dangerous to birds than the first. Generally though, unless you let the birds actually drink the solution, or spray them directly with it, or spray their feed (peanuts, fat balls, whatever you might feed them with) directly with it, or use it in a room which has a caged bird within, it's not something to worry about too much. I'd worry more about bees - don't spray open flowers, and always spray at dusk, when the bees have stopped working, and preferably only use the product (or any insecticide) when essential. Pesticides and fungicides will inevitably affect the environment to some extent, particularly those used in soil. verifyErrors }}{{ message }}{{ /verifyErrors }}{{